{"id":54,"date":"2013-12-19T12:39:42","date_gmt":"2013-12-19T12:39:42","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.thedissenter.co.uk\/?p=884"},"modified":"2013-12-19T12:39:42","modified_gmt":"2013-12-19T12:39:42","slug":"dear-dr-haass-thirdly","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www1.thedissenter.co.uk\/?p=54","title":{"rendered":"Dear Dr Haass, Thirdly\u2026"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is the third part of a Trilogy of posts based on a submission to The Panel of Parties, more generally named \u2018The Haass Talks\u2019. The blog post has the added advantage of being able to link documents and expand on a point here or there by way of detailed explanation that wasn\u2019t possible with a hasty and brief submission written almost upon the submission deadline. Was the submission made with an expectation that it would have any influence? No. It was made because there are things that needed said.<\/p>\n<p>First <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/wp.me\/phwTD-e7\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">http:\/\/wp.me\/phwTD-e7<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<p>Secondly <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/wp.me\/phwTD-ee\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">http:\/\/wp.me\/phwTD-ee<\/span><\/a><\/span><\/p>\n<h4><a href=\"https:\/\/www1.thedissenter.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dr-haass-thirdly-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-medium wp-image-113\" src=\"http:\/\/www.thedissenter.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/12\/dr-haass-thirdly-300x100.jpg\" alt=\"???????????????????????????????\" width=\"300\" height=\"100\" \/><\/a><\/h4>\n<h4>Thirdly, matters stemming from the past.<\/h4>\n<p>With no coherent sense of\u00a0purpose in moving forward, our politicians seem to regard the past as safer ground: albeit without an agreed notion of\u00a0how to\u00a0define\u00a0\u2018the past\u2019.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p><span id=\"more-884\"><\/span>The <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a title=\"Conflict Archive on the INternet\" href=\"http:\/\/cain.ulst.ac.uk\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">CAIN project based out of the University of Ulster <\/span><\/a><\/span>provides useful resource in documentation and fact checking on the past number of decades in Northern Ireland. Of all the most recent thoughts on the past <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a title=\"Alternative, non-partisan debate on Northern Ireland\" href=\"http:\/\/arkivni.wordpress.com\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">ARKIV<\/span><\/a><\/span> seems to be the most reasonable proposal to address \u2018history\u2019, if that is what \u2018the past\u2019 is about. It is\u00a0not\u00a0clear whether there is an agreed definition of what is meant by \u2018the past\u2019, how long do we take the past back; 40, 400, or more years? \u00a0\u00a0ditto, Matters Arising (stemming). Historical examination with as much unconditional information as might be available to\u00a0a panel of historians, such as ARKIV, seems practical. This does not demand a single view; simply that facts, information and knowledge, even\u00a0from a number of different\u00a0perspectives,\u00a0might enable better understanding.<\/p>\n<p>We have all listened to Republicans talk about a \u2018truth\u2019 process. At the <a title=\"Inquiry documentation.\" href=\"http:\/\/webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk\/20101103103930\/http:\/report.bloody-sunday-inquiry.org\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Bloody Sunday Inquiry<\/span> <\/a>there was the chance to uncover the truth by all, for all. Instead, Martin McGuinness declared the \u2018IRA Code of Honour\u2019 prevented him telling all. \u00a0The limited immunity in the search for\u2019 the Disappeared\u2019 has provided not more than half truth and lingering and forlorn hope for many families. Since the Panel of the Parties opened, the <span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><a title=\"Report of the Smithwick Tribunal\" href=\"http:\/\/opac.oireachtas.ie\/AWData\/Library3\/smithwickFinal03122013_171046.pdf\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">Smithwick Report <\/span><\/a><\/span>has been published and some light shone on one event.<\/p>\n<p>In any of all of these examples \u2018the truth\u2019, \u2018the whole truth\u2019, remains a matter of conjecture. Each circumstance severely <a title=\"&quot;...this written record of the exchange between the Tribunal and the former [IRA] members is not best evidence in circumstances where it has not been given orally and tested under cross \u2013 examination.&quot; Smithwick Tribunal (pp398-9)\" href=\"http:\/\/sluggerotoole.com\/2013\/12\/05\/smithwick-the-evidence-keeps-pointing-back-to-the-desire-of-the-ira-to-acquire-information-as-to-how-the-british-security-services-had-gotten-advance-warning-of-the-ira-ambush-on-loughgall-police-s\/\" target=\"_blank\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\">strains belief in the value of information that may be offered without any means of verification<\/span><\/a>. Few believe the sincerity of republicans seeking \u2018truth\u2019 for anything other than political advantage: a limited range of truth; \u2018truth\u2019 demanded, though so rarely offered. On that basis, no \u2018deal\u2019 could be trusted presently.<\/p>\n<p>Mostly, within the Unionist population there is a desire to move on.\u00a0Culturally, it is important to strive constantly towards \u2018better\u2019, a process of improvement and taking responsibility for individual actions in making a positive difference for future generations.<\/p>\n<p>Is there individual hurt and pain from the past. Yes. That is only compounded by the lack of political leadership on the fundamentals of government. What was it all for? It wasn\u2019t for bunch of politicians to sit on the hill at Stormont and sling playground jibes at each other, and to bully and exclude the people they don\u2019t like; to demonise and estrange a culture from wider civic engagement.<\/p>\n<p>Change? How? With elections only ever shuffling the deck, and never likely to change the pack, the prospect of political change is limited, and with it the attitudinal shift on which matters of parades\/protest, flags etc\/understanding might be constructively addressed. With major elections in 2014 and 2015 that will concrete political power into the next decade a wrong decision or poor judgement in talks, to a fickle electorate, might be damaging to party fortunes.<\/p>\n<p>So what of the final outcome from The Panel of Parties? Just another Groundhog Day in Northern Ireland.<\/p>\n<p>The post <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedissenter.co.uk\/2013\/12\/dear-dr-haass-thirdly\/\" rel=\"nofollow\">Dear Dr Haass, Thirdly\u2026<\/a> appeared first on <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thedissenter.co.uk\" rel=\"nofollow\">thedissenter<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is the third part of a Trilogy of posts based on a submission to The Panel of Parties, more generally named \u2018The Haass Talks\u2019. 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